Is Thomas Woods a “Dissenter”?

Posted by Tom Woods on February 5th, 2010 | 5 Comments »

In case you are losing sleep over this burning question, you can Google a four-part (yes, a four-part) series on this issue over at the website of Chronicles magazine.

The author is Thomas Storck, whom I have tangled with in the past, even before I published The Church and the Market: A Catholic Defense of the Free Economy.  (I also recommend this article by Gerard Casey, head of the department of philosophy at University College, Dublin.)  He and I recently had an exchange in the Catholic Social Science Review.  Here is his article and here is my reply.  You may decide for yourself who was the victor.

One of my points — a pretty obvious one, or so I thought, for anyone who understands the contours of ecclesiastical authority — is that the Church cannot pronounce on the mechanics of the cause-and-effect relationships that exist in the sciences.  Two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen either make water or they do not.  Wages are either increased this way or they are increased that way. These facts may help us form our moral conclusions, but they are, obviously, not themselves subject to moral critique. Something either works a particular way or it doesn’t.

Storck continues to argue that the Church must have the authority in some cases to declare that the sciences are “simply wrong.”  Thus if economics says wages rise by doing X, but the statements of prelates seem to imply that they can rise by doing Y, then so much the worse for economics. If we allow the cause-and-effect relationships in economics to exist autonomously (again, he speaks as if cause-and-effect relationships could be subject to moral rebuke!), he demands, then “where does it end?”  He says a psychologist could then say that promiscuity leads to human flourishing, and that I would be helpless to object.

I trust my readers have already spotted the fallacy, but just in case: even in this situation the proper objection is not to the cause-and-effect relationships.  The psychologist’s research could in fact be unimpeachable: behavior A may well lead to emotional state B.  The question is whether emotional state B in fact constitutes human flourishing.  This is a philosophical/theological question, not a technical question involving the operation of forces in the natural world, and thus falls well within the province of the Church.

I understand the magazine’s irascible editor, Thomas Fleming, is calling people at LewRockwell.com (and, by extension, me) “ignorant, pseudo-Catholic poseurs.”  Classy, as usual. When Tom has anything like a book whose Spanish translation features a foreword by the Prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for Worship and the former Primate of Spain, a highly regarded layman’s guide to the old Latin Mass, or a sympathetic study of Progressive Era Catholicism, published by an Ivy League press, that’s been hailed in the major historical and theological journals, he can let me know.  I’ll wait by the phone.

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5 Responses to “Is Thomas Woods a “Dissenter”?”

  1. Mrs. Rene O'Riordan Says:

    February 6th, 2010 at 6:35 am

    Thanks Thomas for all you do. I’m posting up your work on Church History – one segment per day on my facebook page. Got it from Gloria.tv. – Blessings – Rene

  2. John Says:

    February 8th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    I love your work, Thomas Woods! I’ve read “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” and it’s a truly great read.

    However, I was already a Catholic and so the book simply did a great job of filling in the gaps of my knowledge about Catholicism. The second book that I read by you was the game-changer – “Meltdown”.

    My whole perspective on economics, banking, war, government has changed. It all makes sense now haha

    As someone coming from Britain, it’s a relief to read common sense. Also, to know that the Austrian school of thought is out there and gaining strength is comforting – the world is not necessarily doomed!

    Planning on reading “The Church and the Market” at some point. It’s about time Catholics stopped with the socialism and realised the most Catholic way is political and economic liberty.

    Again, thanks for all you’ve done Tom! :)

  3. darren Says:

    February 18th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    As a lifelong Catholic I want to thank you for all that you do!!! Plus your economic writings are right on the mark

  4. RobertH Says:

    July 5th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    I am not Catholic and I even want to read your works related to Catholicism! (I’m protestant)

  5. Ed Waggoner Sr. Says:

    July 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    I’ve been of the Austrian school for years. Some time ago I began reading a Catholic publication that lead me astray for a while. There were constant articles condemning our founding fathers, our 18th and 19th century bishops, anything American, and especially the Austrian school of economics. Never was anything good said about our wonderful United States Constitution. Never, not even one good word said about one of the most important documents ever written.

    Some of the writers for this publication are quite persuasive and easily mislead the economically and politically uneducated. It took me a year or two or three, I’m slow to wise up when I listen to those I admire and trust, but over time I realized they were attacking all that I held dear. This led me to take up a long neglected avocation, i.e., the study of politics and economics.

    Thank you Tom for all the good work you do. Thanks for knowing that there is a difference between abstract and practical philosophy. Your head may be in the clouds but your feet a planted firmly on the ground. Thank you for standing firm against all the naysayers, too many of whom are, in my opinion, culpably ignorant Catholics.

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